Of RPS

[katikat]

Wow, I still can't believe that Supernatural won the People's Choice Award for best SF/F show. Wow! Congratulations! I hope that we will get to see Kripke talking about it, on the S5 DVD box set if nothing else.

And both Jared and Jensen are engaged to be married very, very soon if the rumors are true. Congratulations. But that's rather it for me. I'm not really interested in the personal lives of the actors. Sure, it's cute to hear about their dogs or how Jared sucks at golfing - but I could care less about their love life *shrugs*

I'm not and I've never been a fan of either Danneel Harris or Genevieve Cortese (or Sandy McCoy before that). I've seen them in various shows and they never made an impression on me. I'm not bashing them, I'm just not their fan, I don't go out of my way to find their movies/series. They aren't more beautiful or more talented than dozens of other actresses. And just because I'm a fan of Jared and Jensen, there's no fan law that orders me to automatically become a fan of their soon-to-be-wives - remember the mess when Jared and Sandy broke up? No, thank you. And it makes me rather annoyed that a big part of the fandom accuses me of being a bad fan or, I don't know, a wanker if I don't immediately become a fan of Danneel and Genevieve by proxy. I think it's actually rather insulting for the actresses if you become their fan just because they are someone's fiancées.

Which brings me to the point of my entry - RPS fics and J2 in this case. Yes, I still read CWRPS stories regardless of the marital status of the actors. Why? Because 95% of stories that I read are AUs with original characters that are modeled after Jared and Jensen and that's it. If they were named Dick and Larry instead of Jared and Jensen, nothing would change. There are stories with businessman!Jensen and veterinarian!Jared, singer!Jensen and ranch-owner!Jared, physical-therapist!Jensen and assassin!Jared etc. etc. I read these fics as I would watch a movie where the characters are portrayed by Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki. And those have nothing to do with the personal lives of the actors.

Enough meta-ing for 9am!

Comments

[layne67.livejournal.com]

Well said!

I've started watching Flash Forward and imagine my horror when I saw GC's name in the credits.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I know that Genevieve is on FlashForward but it doesn't make me want to watch the show any more or any less. You could say the same about, I don't know, Dominic Monaghan who's on the show too. I'm not a fan so it doesn't raise any reaction in me, positive or negative *shrugs*

And it irks me that this fandom automatically calls you a basher when you just aren't their fan. I'm not a fan of a huge amount of people but it doesn't make me their basher *sigh*

[sharona1x2.livejournal.com]

I agree with you. Just because you like one half of a married couple doesn't mean you automatically have to be fans of the other half. (I like Misha Collins, but I don't know a thing about his wife, and I'm fine with that.)

There's a big difference between not being a fan and actually bashing them.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Yeah. It's not that I dislike them, I just don't swoon about them *shrugs* It's just too bad that not many people can see the difference.

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

I totaly agree with you. 100 % (although my husband is quite the fan of Sandy and it has nothing to do with Jared - it only has to do with her. KNowing him mostly her but).

What does not wanting to get into an acters personal life have to do with what quality of fan you are?

Most of the RP fics I read are AU as well - the others seem weirdly intrusive.

But then again I think the supernatural fandom i a little self distructive as a whole. It seems to mostly be about telling people who don't agree with you they are bad in some way.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I love RPS AUs. The non-AU stories must be really well written for me to actually read them because they do make me a bit uncomfortable.

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

yeah like writing them the way they are suposed to be is almost voiuristic.

[creedcascade.livejournal.com]

All I care about the actors is what I care about for anyone else. That they're happy. And, well, hopefully in this case on a kickass show they love!
I agree with you though, it's cute to hear stuff about their animals, or I like to hear about the charities they support.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

When it comes to actors, I'm mostly interesting in their projects - like with Joe Flanigan. I can't wait to see the new movie he's in. I know that it's not the main part but according to Jace Hall, Joe's kicking butt!

[astri13.livejournal.com]

Man, I so agree. I don't really care for the actor's personal lifes. Now if I'm a fan of an actor, I prefer to hear or see for myself that they are nice people (or at least can fake it well for the public, IMO people have a right to be jerks once in a while, everybody is) and for co-stars to get along - I was saddened about Castle - but their engagement, marriages, divorces etc? None of my buisness, none of my concern.

The only time I did fret last year was when I feared they'd prolong the character/actress on the show as a favour to the real-life relationship. THAT, I would have had a problem with. Now, though, I wish them luck and that's it.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I was rather surprised when I read the thing about the Castle cast :( I heard that Stana Katic behaved like a real bitch and Nathan Fillion called her more than once on her unprofessional behavior. I bought S1 on DVD but I haven't got around to actually watching it yet.

[ixchel55.livejournal.com]

Hell, there's no law, fannish or otherwise, that says you have to either like or dislike the significant other of someone you enjoy watching onscreen. I'm just glad you don't have a knee-jerk reaction and hate the girls simply because they're hooked up, because so many people do. And that just sucks and smacks of being a rabid fan. I like Danneel, but if I never saw her again I wouldn't cry in my Wheaties. Gen I just vaguely don't care for, kinda meh! I'm just in it for the boys and since I read and write is total fantasy, them being married or not makes absolutely no difference what-so-ever.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Nope, no knee-jerk reaction here. Though I have to admit that it is a bit annoying that lately, whenever there's something posted about Jared or Jensen, it's always somehow connected with their GFs. I mean, come on! Do you see articles/interviews about, I don't know, Joe Flanigan always mentioning his wife who is an actress/painter? I prefer it when actors keep their private lives private. And I prefer to hear about their projects and plans or what's happening on the set to hearing about their wedding plans or I don't know what. I want to know what's in store for Supernatural, what's the chance of us getting S6, if they plan to star in a movie this summer...

[(Anonymous)]

I prefer it when actors keep their private lives private.

Well, they kinda have to, with how some batshit fans were going at them in their faces at conventions. It's the best way to shut the tinhats down.

Doesn't really mean the RPS should suddenly stop though. Just the tinhatting. Cause we're here for sexy/nice/enjoyable fic, not for pretending the fic is real, for christsakes.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

True. I mean, would it make me happy if it was the truth and they became a couple? Sure, because they are gorgeous and hot, but whatever floats their boat as long as they are happy. That's all that matters!

[yami-tai.livejournal.com]

I agree with everyone else, why should you automatically like an actor's other half, just because you like the actor?

I would much rather come to like said other half through their own work or that they remain anonymous to me.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Exactly! There are actors that I simply adore - like Joe Flanigan - and I know barely something about their private lives. I prefer it that way. It's enough for me to know if he's a nice guy and that's it. I think that the Supernatural fandom is a bit too intrusive!

[yami-tai.livejournal.com]

I think that the Supernatural fandom is a bit too intrusive!

LOL! I think Jensen and Jared would agree wholeheartedly with you there, honey!

here from metafandom.

[noelia-g.livejournal.com]

I really like your way of comparing RPS AUs to actors portraying characters in the movies - this is what I've been trying to explain for a while, only not so well.

With RPS, I take some fanon-established traits of 'Jared' and 'Jensen' characters I read about, that happen to be based on real people whose personalities we see on the interviews, etc; but I don't think those have much to do with, well, reality (it's true about non-J2 RPFiction I read, too). In fact, the less I know about the actors' personal life, the easier it is for me to read RPS.

I like Genevieve, quite a bit, and I am pleased she's in Flash Forward. It has nothing to do with her relationships. I understand she's not everyone's favourite actress, I don't expect everyone to have the same taste in actors and actresses as I do. I had seen very little of Danneel in shows or movies I watch, so I have no opinion as of yet.

I don't know, all this noise seems kind of pointless to me, I'd prefer people doing much more productive things with their time than arguing about the actors' relationships. Like, write more fic. This would please me ;D

(tl;dr: I liked your post. I'll go and read RPS fic now. And then catch up on Flash Forward.)

Re: here from metafandom.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Hi there *waves* CWRPS fics are the only ones that I read and I do prefer the AUs - I love gay romances, one of my favorite genres, so the AUs are like, I don't know, watching a movie with them playing those roles. I know that some people write original stories and just post a picture of the actor with the name of their original character to show how they imagine him/her - I know that there used to be this really long gen but slashy scifi series and the author imagined one of her characters as Martin Cummins, the other one as Keanu Reeves. RPS AUs are basically the same, they just keep the name of the actor...

[christycorr]

Yes, I still read CWRPS stories regardless of the marital status of the actors. Why? Because 95% of stories that I read are AUs with original characters that are modeled after Jared and Jensen and that's it. If they were named Dick and Larry instead of Jared and Jensen, nothing would change. There are stories with businessman!Jensen and veterinarian!Jared, singer!Jensen and ranch-owner!Jared, physical-therapist!Jensen and assassin!Jared etc. etc. I read these fics as I would watch a movie where the characters are portrayed by Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki.

Thiiiis! So much this. I don't really read J2, but that's how I've come to see RPS nowadays.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

*nods* I know that real people fiction makes some people uncomfortable and I must admit that some of the non-AU stories make even me feel that way but I think it all depends on the author...