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Some more thoughts about last night's SPN ep... and lookie! Plot bunnies! 8P

So, the whole Bela sob story... Please, if we have to keep the bitch, could she at least become a part of the main plot and not just an obvious tag-on bimbo? I mean, it would be great if Lilith possessed Bela's sister/cousin/daughter/member of her family or if it was her fault that Lilith was out of Hell and/or possessing this child, if Bela caused the whole apocalypse by her greed and now she tried to make up for it and that was why she stole the colt. That would make her presence at least bearable.

I just hope that her sob story won't be totally unrelated to the plot, just a filler to show us that yus, she does have a heart, the poor thing. If she has to be redeemed - and obviously, there is no way around it now - at least redeem her by making her a part of the plot like Ruby! *sigh*

And I totally live in denial about Henricksen's death. And look, there is a plot bunny! Imagine Henricksen, Nancy and the deputy waking up after the blast, alive. The charms protected them. The deputy, being the idiot that he is, runs yelling our of the ruins and right into the arms of Lilith's minions who kill him. Henricksen seeing that, pulls Nancy down, forcing her to shush. They hide in the burnt down building until Lilith's minions go away. Then they run, looking for the Winchesters. Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are sitting in their room, all depressed after Ruby's departure. And suddenly, there is knock on the door. They open it and there are Henricksen and Nancy, scared, pissed and bleeding but alive...

Oh, and the fact that it's pretty much obvious that Lilith's the one holding Dean's contract, is even more shiver-worthy now. Lilith is pretty much an evil lust creature in the body of a child. And obviously, she "likes" Dean... Can you imagine Dean being the play toy to a cruel demon child? Wow, someone with much more talent than I have HAS to write it like now!



Oh, and unrelated... USA Psychs Out Competition:
According to Nielsen Media Research data for the week ended Feb. 17, (the USA network) wrapped its seventh straight ratings win, among ad-supported cable nets, giving it a perfect record for 2008 thus far. (...) Part one of the two-hour season finale of Monk drew 5.6 million viewers Friday night, setting the table for this week’s one-hour wrap. At 10 p.m., Psych continued to hold the majority of its lead-in audience, averaging 4.7 million viewers.

Wow! I mean, we already know that Psych was re-newed for S3 but it's so great to see how many people actually watch and love it! It's terrific that at least one of my favorite shows is really appreciated!

Date: 2008-02-22 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] keire-ke.livejournal.com
So much agreement. I want Henricksen to live! He was such a decent guy and so much like Dean. So not cool. I was hoping Henricksen would eventually come to the realisation he'd rather save people than spend another fifteen years filling in forms. DAMNIT!

About Bela though, I am starting to appreciate her in the show, at least more than I do Ruby. Ruby I can't understand, and I can't relate. Maybe when we get her story. Bela though I can somehow understand. Also, she's a good foil to Dean's "deal with personal tragedy by sacrificing self for the greater good". Still don't want her anywhere near Dean, but I'm starting to enjoy her presence.

I think she is tied up to the main plot, I mean, Kripke hasn't disappointed so far. Maybe Lilith is her sister/daughter/cousin who'd died and is now stringing Bela along that she'll get her back?

Date: 2008-02-22 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
I'm just the opposite. I like Ruby. I know that she has her own agenda but she kicks so much ass. Literally.

Bela is a whiny bitch. As long as it's not about her, she's really uber self-confident. But as soon as it's about her precious life, she comes back crawling and whining for help. If she at least was a part of the main plot, I could accept her. But I just don't like that suddenly, they are turning her from a cold-hearted sociopath into misunderstood girl with a sad past.

I don't like her at all, sorry. For me, she's ruining every scene that she's in because she always one-ups everyone, including Bobby who wasn't conned by a demon for christ sake, and always gets away with it. That's not a way to write a character you want the fans to like.

Date: 2008-02-22 10:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] keire-ke.livejournal.com
I dunno, maybe it will change when I know what Ruby's agenda is.

I'm not saying she isn't a whiny bitch, and I am hoping for her to get her just deserts as much as you do. I don't like her, not one bit. But as a character in the show I think she works rather splendid, even if she isn't connected to the main plot, which I'm sure she is. I kinda consider her Dean's alternate ego - what he'd have become if he was a lesser man.

So keep watching and remember this: the higher they climb, the bigger splash they make when they fall. *grins* I really can't see how she can end well, and I hardly think they will make her a misunderstood girl.

Date: 2008-02-22 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, they will redeem her, as Sera Gamble herself said, to make her an asset to the boys. And as long as Gamble is writing the eps and Ostroff is on the high horse, Bela will never go splat. She is uber cool after all. She even knows Henricksen to tip him off where to find the Winchesters *rolls eyes*

I just really hate characters like her. If she was less snarky, less horny, I would like her but I can't stand women like her in RL, demeaning others to prove their strength, and I project my feelings into the show. The Winchesters are not equals to her and that's very bad in a show that's about the Winchesters. Or at least should be.

Date: 2008-02-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] keire-ke.livejournal.com
Can't hear you, lalalalala. Seriously, I really cannot see a way of Bela being redeemed without Sailor Moon popping in. I wonder how they want to turn her into any kind of asset, when Bela is basically incompatible with the boys. She might pop in occasionally with something hard to get, but they cannot work together. Unless she gets permanently possessed. That could work. XD

And ditto, people like her are very, very annoying. Luckily I know very few. :) Still, I think the problem the Winchesters have is that they didn't spend enough time around people, so their morals are a little out of this world.

Date: 2008-02-22 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Sorry, I never know who is spoiler-free on my flist and who is not. But be assured that I know zip about the eps to come, this was just a very general interview with Sera Gamble - who very much swooned about Bela; she basically worshipped the ground Bela walked on. But it's pretty obvious from this episode where Bela's storyline is headed. She obviously doesn't want to sell the colt. So the only other possibility is that she wants to use it - tadaaaaaaaah, a sob story. A sob story will of course make the Winchesters change their minds about her because they are good boys. Tadaaaaaaaah, Bela is all redeemed and shiny *shrugs*

I think that Kripke has very little to say about if the character stays or goes - she's Ostroff's forced upon pet - so he HAS to make the fans somehow like her. She didn't work out well as an antagonist, she didn't really win the fans over, so the only other way to go is make her good. That's simple deduction *shrugs again*

Date: 2008-02-22 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] keire-ke.livejournal.com
I prefer to ignore interviews, though I do read spoilers, sometimes.

Still, it doesn't add up. Whatever Bela is up to, there is no way I can see her be redeemed unless maybe she sacrifices herself along the way to stop the apocalypse. She is selfish, conceited and spoiled, I don't see how they can even begin to change the boy's minds without some really, REALLY lame writing. She shot Sam for some trinket. I can't see Dean getting over that, ever.

Here's a thought: why don't we start a petition against Sera Gamble running the show?

Date: 2008-02-23 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
*sighs* As I said to a friend, I'm slowly but surely reaching the stage of "whatEVER" with the both of them, Bela and Gamble. There's only so many times I can go with my head against the wall. Bela is there to stay no matter what so I will just not re-watch the Bela!eps and skip the small scenes that she will be in in the rest of the episodes. She's really not worth elevated blood pressure *sighs again*

Date: 2008-02-23 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorified-moron.livejournal.com
I'm odd but this: Lilith is pretty much an evil lust creature in the body of a child. And obviously, she "likes" Dean... Can you imagine Dean being the play toy to a cruel demon child?

Somehow fascinates me. The embodiment of lust and evil, the consciousness of something unwilling to bend to an others will... all wrapped up into a wee child. And it likes Dean. *shakes head* Seriously, it should be wrong but I'm... drawn to the idea of it all. Would love to read a really dark angsty fic about it. How she tries to brake him, tortures him; keeps his soul in the palm of her small hand. Hmm.

I am so not with the coherent. lol. Also, Bella sucks. *nods* I think that might be a part of why she's so disliked. Because she has no real reason to be there, unlike Ruby. Who more of us seem to like, or at least can stomach. Bella just seems inconsequential.

Date: 2008-02-23 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Hehe, Lilith finds Dean cute. Of course, Sam is just tall because she wants him dead after all :P But Dean... I bet that it's Lilith who now owns Dean's contract :)

About Bela - that's why I hope that she becomes a part of the overall plot REALLY soon because they just can't keep her the "cute baddie" of filler eps *rolls eyes*

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