supernatural_tv

[katikat]

I decided to gear up and poke the hornets' hive! I posted a request for fans to do something for SPN and simply watch it in supernatural_tv. Someone simply had to do it and I was tired to see people go all pft! about SPN's bad ratings! And so, I got pro-active! *nods*

ETA: And obviously, I just "insulted" and "bashed" and "pissed off" people through my post *shakes head* No matter how carefully you choose your words, someone will always take offense.

ETA2: Aha, now come the big guns, capital letters and the "fucking" adjectives. I just don't get it. Why can some people say simply "okay, but I disagree" and some can't voice their opinion without using coarse language?

Comments

[ckll.livejournal.com]

I saw your post there and i knew somehow that some fans would react about.
The episode didn't have that bad rating as i read today. It was lower than last week's but overall, it does very well and there's no fear of canceling.
Every fan shows his support with his own way less or more.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I'm not angry about the reaction that I received because I kinda expected it. In a fandom, there will always be someone who will take your words the wrong way, especially on the internet. People got angry about my words instead of hearing the message I was trying to convey - please, watch it live! *shakes head*

Sincere Apology

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

the thing is (and you probably aren’t going to believe this) is that, in general I agree with you. We should be watching live and, until 1-31 I did AND taped. If I had a better option I would have taken it.

I didn't mean to get upset, and probably if it hadn’t been a hard decision I wouldn’t have, but I did. And I over reacted. I didn’t feel flamed (yeah insulted but not flamed).

I do hope you except my apology.

And my apology for following you over here (totally impolite – I know) I should have just let it role off my back (like I normally would have)

Re: Sincere Apology

[katikat.livejournal.com]

You don't need to apologize, really. I didn't feel angry or miffed or anything because I did know that people might got the wrong message even though I tried to word it as carefully as possible.

The reason why I posted it is that I don't live in the US and I have absolutely no way to help the show. I do buy the DVDs, books etc. etc. that are available. I watch the show on TV here. I watched it when they aired it at 1 AM on Monday night. I literally shove it down my friends' throat XP But it doesn't help at all and that makes me frustrated and sad and grumpy... *head/desk*

Re: Sincere Apology

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

see heres the thing. I realy want to have the ability to go back and re watch, so to do that I have to tape. I don't have the abity to download.

I've bought all of the tie in stuff including the comic. I've gotten 6 other people to watch. I do everything I can. I wasn't willing to give up lost (but I did give up House and CSI for Supernatural) - it felt like you were saying that those of us who chose to watch something else are less fans. I know that you didn't mean it that way- but that was how it felt.

From what I understand if you download off of Itunes it does count in the rateings - but I'm not 100% on that.

The way I acted was SO not me. so again I'm sorry.

Re: Sincere Apology

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Hehe, but we can agree on disagreeing and that's just fine with me, really :) We are all entitled to our own opinions after all.

At least you didn't start throwing the "fucking" adjectives around like some other people who disagreed. We talked, we stated our opinions and it's okay. But it makes me sad when people can't say that they disagree without lowering themselves to such language *sigh*

Re: Sincere Apology

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

i haven't read most of the other comments... if people were cussing you I'm sorry for that too. Since I think I opend the flood gates there.

Like I said - I did put a lot of thought into what I was going to do. Like I said if I had another choice I would have taken it but *shrug*

i don't consider myself less of a fan becasue I took the only option that I felt was open to me. And I guess that is what insulted me the most with your post. It was the assumption that I did have another option.

Just so you know though, I know of at least one person who did watch the ep live who took also got the 'you are a bad fan for not watching live' vibe from your post.

Re: Sincere Apology

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Right now, I'm just saying "whatever" and deleting the comments I receive. I had a good intention, it turned out badly. I just received a comment basically calling me a troll. Nothing will surprise me anymore. So, "whatever" is the word here.

Re: Sincere Apology

[bodgei.livejournal.com]

yeah, I had a feeling it would get to that. And I am sorry. That's why I came here, 'cause I really didn't want you to think I wanted you to think I ment you to feel bad. The fandom over reacts to everything - season three is awesome. I love Superantural and talk it up every chance I get.

You made aweome points and in a perfict world - well the world would be perfict.

[starry-ice.livejournal.com]

From experience, I've learned to be amused rather than aggravated by people who accuse you of being offensive by being even more offensive. And really, there's no amount of disclaiming in the world that can stop some people from exploding... In another fandom awhile ago, I once spent a good paragraph disclaiming myself *first* before I posted one line of information that someone else had asked for on a mailing list. And then I spent the next week or so dealing with aftermath... LOL.

Anyways, for what it's worth, I do agree somewhat with your post. I don't necessarily agree with how it was delivered, but I did see the good intentions behind it...

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I think that no matter what I would have said or how I would have said it, people would have still twisted it around. I'm not angry, I'm not aggravated. I'm just sad.

[misty-writes.livejournal.com]

I just commented over there. I can't believe people are getting so offended, it's pretty ridiculous. You just requested that people tune in to the show. Where's bad in that? People can listen or not, you're not forcing anyone into anything, nor are you putting down folks who chose Lost over SPN.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I could have worded it better but no matter how I would say it, asked people to stay loyal to SPN, people would have twisted my words anyway. This isn't the first that time that I caught crap about trivialities in this fandom but I think this is the last straw that broke the camel's back. I'm done.

[misty-writes.livejournal.com]

I seriously hate 90% of this fandom. It's full of haters and people crying about how they're oppressed by Wincest and those who freak out at the slightest thing and start sending angry letters to Dawn Ostroff (she deserves them, but that is a different story) and the people who hate Kripke because he didn't let Dean and Jo get married and have babies and just UGH. It's stupid. The 10% of kind, happy people is the only thing keeping me here.

[creedcascade.livejournal.com]

(hugs)

I have no idea what happened, but I understand how you feel.

(double hugs)

[katikat.livejournal.com]

*hugs back* You caught some pretty bad crap about your fics some time ago, huh? But I must say that I love them. Especially ToD and the Zeke/Johnny/Myron ones! Those are for the win :D

[suzvoy.livejournal.com]

Re: your latest post:

I'm not going anywhere :)

[nereem.livejournal.com]

Ha. I did my comments and post before reading this.

I fully agree.

Agree or desagree. Do not be insulting. It's pathetic and immature. I dont midn that some people express themseleves with a fire/passion. They can even say I THINK YOU'RE WRONG- coz they think it- they didnt say YOU ARE WRONG- it's their opinion. But, seriously- act with class. Don't get so bitchy about it.

I am not saying that they had no right to disagree. I agreed with you for the most part- I am not a Lost fan, but perhaps, they took offense in the way you may have expressed it- being Lost fans as well. But discussion si about expressing oneself but not getting insulting. And i had to comment on that thread to a comment i saw that really frustrated me.

I am not going anywhere. I have always respected your opinion and I like our discussions. A lot.

♥

[nereem.livejournal.com]

When I said "act with class" I didn't mean YOU- I meant you as in general. If you, as in people, are wanting to express themselves. Do it maturally- especially in a discussion group. Be as childish or defensive as youw ant ON YOUR OWN LJ, coz that's your OWN ground. But not in a community.

:)

[lostandalone22.livejournal.com]

Re: ETA

When I read it, it did sound quite a bit like you were pointing a finger and lecturing to folks. I know that's not how you meant for it to come off, but if I took a moment and went "wow, she's yelling at them," I can see where someone else who doesn't know you would feel that way.

[klingonpoo.livejournal.com]

*hugs*

[katikat.livejournal.com]

*hugs* Thank you :)

[katikat.livejournal.com]

I don't mind people disagreeing. I expected that some people would agree, some disagree, that's the way it is when you post to comms. But is it so much to ask them to use civil language? But whatever. I don't really care anymore.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

Some people agreed, some people disagreed. With the ones who disagreed in a civil language, we talked about it, agreed on disagreeing. But I draw the line at foul expletives. We can disagree and stay civil about it.

[katikat.livejournal.com]

*hugs back*

[nereem.livejournal.com]

Hey, you know what. I think its wonderful and brave that you wanted to express your opinion the way you did. I read through all of the comments. A lot of people agreed, some didn't. I truly agree with you that for those who don't agree- should just express themselves in a civil language. It's going to be a little uncomfortable shortly after all the comments- but seriously- I thought that some of the/your responses were very well written. So yeah, ignore all the other silly /stupid bashings and what not. I still want to reply to our comments in your other post. I've been itching to get into a good discussion with someone I respect about SPN. You have no idea how our little comment thing the other day (about Ruby and Bela) cheered me up because I found someone who was eloquent in their opinion :) You made me very happy, honey!