For cryin' out loud!
Oct. 16th, 2008 09:43 amYou know, I thought that the SPN fandom was bonkers with the rapist!Sam and abuser!Dean theme they have going these days but SGA managed to top it!
On GateWorld, someone started a thread called "Does Stargate tolerate abusive relationships?" You read right. Basically, they suggest that the SG writers condone abusive relationships based on the episode Irresistible - sleazy Lucius - and the way Larrin keeps beating/torturing Sheppard whenever they meet. Oh, and let's not forget Vala's sexual harassment of Daniel vs. Daniel physically manhandling/verbally abusing Vala. Oh yes.
I mean, I would get their Lucius argument - if they related the "date-rape drug" thing as they call it to both genders, women AND men, because Lucius did use it on both men and women. Just because Lucius didn't run around touching men doesn't mean he didn't do it. Just remember the scene with Sheppard in the prison cell, when he told John that soon enough, John would do anything what Lucius told him to, that John would beg to be allowed to please Lucius. If that couldn't be interpreted as a planned rape, then I don't know what else could.
So, if said party included men into the whole raping thing, then I would agree. But when she excluded one gender just because, she totally undermined her own argument in the need to present women as hapless victims.
I just don't get why people feel the need to try and see simple horror/sci-fi shows as deep psychological thrillers *shakes head*
On GateWorld, someone started a thread called "Does Stargate tolerate abusive relationships?" You read right. Basically, they suggest that the SG writers condone abusive relationships based on the episode Irresistible - sleazy Lucius - and the way Larrin keeps beating/torturing Sheppard whenever they meet. Oh, and let's not forget Vala's sexual harassment of Daniel vs. Daniel physically manhandling/verbally abusing Vala. Oh yes.
I mean, I would get their Lucius argument - if they related the "date-rape drug" thing as they call it to both genders, women AND men, because Lucius did use it on both men and women. Just because Lucius didn't run around touching men doesn't mean he didn't do it. Just remember the scene with Sheppard in the prison cell, when he told John that soon enough, John would do anything what Lucius told him to, that John would beg to be allowed to please Lucius. If that couldn't be interpreted as a planned rape, then I don't know what else could.
So, if said party included men into the whole raping thing, then I would agree. But when she excluded one gender just because, she totally undermined her own argument in the need to present women as hapless victims.
I just don't get why people feel the need to try and see simple horror/sci-fi shows as deep psychological thrillers *shakes head*